On other notes, I think yeahs, sometimes we want more from a game, but when we get it, all nintendo get is complaints telling them that they should of known better.

I do agree with the Side-quests part though. It is true that a lot of the side-quests become challenging chores rather than enjoyable breaks from the story.

The Kafei and Anju quest in MM was really challenging for me.. I don’t know about anyone else, but it was all easy until the 3rd day when we had to beat the mask to the end of the place. True to, is that the bug finding was a little rediculous.

At least we know now that nintendo has said themselves that the game is going to be a completely different game in terms of Zelda, and will be taken out of the formula a bit more.

This is an interesting thread that makes some valid points, while in some cases is stretching it a bit. I still don’t think that those points are any reason to “hate” zelda… just things that it needs to improve a little on.

Now that is one good reason to request better development of the Zelda games (not that the recent games weren’t good, but they could be better if the developers added some elements like that one). In the long past, considering the old Zelda games, there were no conditions to do such a thing as voice acting on a game. But now it just depends on the developers disposition and courage to place good quality voice acting in the series. Some thinks that the voice acting would destroy the feeling of a open world rpg-like game in the series, but seriously, putting as a example, the Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodline game has a lot of voice acted dialogues (except for the Player’s character ones) and still, it has so many paths (and endings) to be followed according to your choices, side quests, rpg elements and even the feeling of really being in the game, living the plot as you would really live, with a character that (normally) acts like the Player (that makes a real conection between the player and the game, like Link does in the Zelda series). And that is just one example, more games of similar style had Voice acting and those elements were not only present, but they were a lot more interesting and original in those games. So, as i already said, applying Voice Acting in complex dialogues don’t exactly destroy the original elements that features the Zelda series since its beginning.

…but seriously, if this is the only bad point in a specific Zelda game, in my opinion, it can be easily ignored. The Next Zelda games lack of voice acting will still be aceptable if those entries turns to be good games… but it will be very boring if the series keep in this way for too long.

…shit man…. forget about it

As for no voice actors, I like it. I am terrified of people coming in and screwing it up. Even in 2009 you can still find games with shoddy voice acting, even some of the big budget titles.

I did not even write this article but I do not appreciate people being rude like that.

For voice acting, I have never been too sure on my opinion. I could go either way. A lot of games have great voice acting but there are some that are terrible.

The games are very predictable and linear. I would very much like things to be mixed up a bit.

As for the “grievances”, I agree with most to a certain degree. I don’t agree with the voice acting – seriously, in most games (specially localized japanese games) voice acting is awful. Tales of Symphonia? Awful. Eternal Sonata? Awful. Final Fantasy X? God-Awful.
Would you want what would have been a good game ruined by crappy voice acting? That wish doesn’t represent even half of the LoZ community.

As for companions, I think we’re getting better. Sure, Navi was annoying (but as zoomot said, it’s from a 10 year old game) but Tatl was a little better, whoever-spoke-from-the-stone in WW was better, and I don’t really have any problems with Midna in TP and Zelda in Spirit Tracks. Or did you dislike Midna? Seriously?

As for the side quests, they were boring in TP and a little in WW too, but again I think they’re getting better. Spirit Tracks makes me _want_ to search for the stamps and the treasures, which is a first for me.

As for Linearity+Predictability (sorry, but your wording was so bad that it made these seem the same problem more or less) you have a point – forest-fire-water-some other element is getting tired. What is wrong with simple caves, labyrinths, dungeons, swamps, like in the old games? I wouldn’t mind exploring the Rawrmonster Cave instead of Rwarmonster Volcano. At least I wouldn’t be expecting fire all the time.

As for plot predictability… we’re getting better, but it’s not going to change too much. And seriously, I don’t mind it. Japanese RPGs are getting very cliched too, they feel like glorified anime or korean soap operas (never seen one? Watch one. There – you’ve watched them all). I don’t mind Zelda’s easy plots because at least they don’t get all high and mighty and try to pretend to be, y’know, all DEEP and STUFF about LIFE.

Midna was always in there being annoying

But these statements really do apply to all zelda games. Not just OoT and TP. He made references to the 2 most popular but it applies to all or a good percentage

2. Same sh* and concept! Princess is in danger, something threatens the Hyrule world, you go on adventure, helping things and gaining power and defeating the monster.

3.Childish.

Predictability isn’t always a horrible thing. Yeah, I know I’ll get crap for that, but what about movies such as Enchanted? Games like Mario? Yeah, the game play may be predictable at times, but you have to admit you didn’t see everything that was coming to you.

What’s so important about voice acting? It certainly doesn’t take away from the experience. Link is a silent character for numerous reasons. A major one for the same reason people always get upset when their favorite books become movies and destroy their individual perception of it. Everyone has their own interpretation of each character, and that’s something you can’t achieve by voice acting.

Majora’s Mask and Ocarina of Time are really the only games where you can complain about a companion. Unless you have some weird grudge against Midna, or something. Most Zelda games don’t have them. It’s stupid to claim it’s a huge series fault when really it’s only present in the minority of the games.

Fun article, though.

I also think there’s no real action in Zelda games. Lots of almost-action–the boss fight with the dragon on top of the floating temple sure did *look* exciting. But I can’t even make Link jump. I have to run off an edge and let him jump for me. I don’t need God of War. I just want fights not to feel like annoying blobs which jump out and interfere with my running through a giant tedious barren landscape.